Post-Game Grades: Pacers Cough Up Ball, Miss Free Throws, Lose Game 5

You cannot close out a team that won 54 regular season games on its own floor when you miss 14 free throws and give up 19 turnovers in a slow-paced game.

You just can’t.

There isn’t much more to say.

Several guys played bad and the bench was an hydrogen blimp explosion.

The late-arriving news that George Hill couldn’t play certainly threw a wrench into the rotation, but nobody stepped up, and the team was just way too sloppy to win this game.

It’s amazing to me that they were even within 4 in the fourth quarter. I kept looking up and expecting it to be 15. That’s a credit to their defense, which I understand isn’t a separate entity from the team as a whole.

Still, it was error-prone hoops at its worst, and the 19 turnovers felt more like 30 just considering how prominent each was. They all, particularly in the second half, stood out as glaring reminders of just how poorly this team handles the ball and pressure at times.

That is the case even when they have Hill as the primary ball handler.

Without him?


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Here is how each guy played individually tonight. Agree? Disagree? Express your thoughts below in the comments or yell at me (@8pts9secs) or Tim (@TimDonahue8p9s) on Twitter.

David West, PF 39 MIN | 7-17 FG | 3-6 FT | 10 REB | 2 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 17 PTS | -12

Can’t shoot anymore apparently. He has struggled to hit shots all series, but this was especially egregious. His line doesn’t look as bad as it could, since he had two early put backs and found himself in position to benefit from a Paul George pass after a back court steal for a dunk. Good on him for mixing it up down low and earning those buckets, but he was 4-for-14 otherwise, with most of the misses coming on shots that he makes regularly.

Paul George, SF 43 MIN | 7-18 FG | 7-10 FT | 6 REB | 6 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 23 PTS | -8

Did nice work on ‘Melo and J.R., and you don’t want to stop appreciating that. And he hit two big shots in the fourth to keep hope alive, one plus the foul in the paint and another on a deep three that cut the deficit to 4 with under seven minutes to play. Still, the turnovers (4 in the second half) and the misses (1-for-6 in the first half) continue to mar his game.

Roy Hibbert, C 31 MIN | 3-7 FG | 3-4 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 3 TO | 9 PTS | 0

Rim protection, unwarranted foul trouble, some shaky post moves, a really, really bad turnover when faced with a simple double team in the fourth.

D.J. Augustin, PG 39 MIN | 3-9 FG | 3-5 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 12 PTS | -6

Made some shots. Hurt the team in many other ways. Let’s talk about this more tomorrow.
Lance Stephenson, SG 34 MIN | 1-7 FG | 2-4 FT | 8 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 4 PTS | -12

Throughout the regular season, Lance would sometimes get overly eager about trying to break down a defender off the dribble when he had a mismatch. Maybe he has been told to cut that out. Maybe he was shaken up from two rough falls while driving. But, man, it would be nice to see him make the Knicks pay for guarding him with Jason Kidd and Chris Copeland.

Tyler Hansbrough, PF 9 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 0 PTS | +2

Added nothing I remember.

Gerald Green, SF 13 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 5 PTS | +5

We’ll talk more about this tomorrow.

Sam Young, SF 15 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -9

We’ll talk more about this tomorrow.

Ian Mahinmi, C 17 MIN | 2-2 FG | 1-4 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 5 PTS | -10

Played good defense. Didn’t miss a shot.


Didn’t play.

Tags: 2013 Playoffs Game Recap Pacers Vs. Knicks

  • Josiah

    Putting in Gerald Green over Pulp is egregious. It’s the kind of move that J.O.B would make. Give him a chance when the game is actually on the line; there’s no way he could be worse than GG.

    • Realist

      GG can’t even make a simple post-entry pass. It’s awful.

      • Bigm181

        It’s unbelievable. From day one he hasn’t been able to make that pass. What NBA caliber player can’t make a pass into the post? OJ could not have been worse than GG. Maybe Vogel was hoping GG would come in and have one of those few games where he lights it up. Unfortunately that didn’t happen.

  • Realist

    DJ with zero assists in 39 minutes. Nice.

  • Philip Tarrant

    The GH injury really exposes how thin we are at PG behind him. With DJ in the game, it wasn’t good, but the turnovers came even more regularly with no actual point on the floor. Not really a surprise with guys being asked to fill roles they normally do not (and no time to work on any of this in practice, either). Even with more time to prepare, it’s still going to be tough to get positive traction if Hill can’t play. The guy is the driving force of our offense much of the time.

  • Avi Friedman

    The Pacers gotta feel pretty good going into game 6 to be honest. They played one of their worst games of the playoffs while the Knicks played one of their best and the Pacers were still in it all game long. The DJ starting for Hill thing isn’t a huge problem he’s just gotta be way less careless with the ball. I hope Vogel finally decides to give OJ some minutes in game 6 if Hill can’t go…

  • Roberto Aedo

    Cmon guys…lets look the big picture here…
    This team has grown
    some much this year…even with a real weak bench we are still one win
    away from the Conference Finals…..

    Paul George really has showed glimpes
    of being a steady contributor on offense, being already an all star on

    Lance Stephenson is a great player, being a really contribuitor,

    Roy Hibbert
    overcome his bad start of the seasion and has showed consistency and spectacullar defense in the playoffs….

    Do you
    Imagine if Next season Granger comes back at his form, and the team
    shows the same stellar D of this year?…(if he doesn´t maybe he could be a realli good trade piece) .

    I believe if we fix the bench with solid
    contributors.. we would be a
    real threat to the Miami Heat…..

    Therefore, This year has been a
    success, even if we lose the next two games and the series….
    so lets
    support the Pacers and start being good fans….fill the BLF and cheer
    for this group…specially if they showed you they are playing with passion
    and heart… this entire season….

    Greeting from maybe the only pacers fan in Chile !!!

    • Jack Wright

      Is this a poem? lol jk

    • Realist

      The big picture? We are 9 wins from the title.

      • Roberto Aedo

        if you are realist, you should know you are not going to win a title…not with this Pacers bench….
        Eastern conference final was the real goal for this year

        • Realist

          Eastern Conference Finals was a pass mark for the year.

  • Derrick McKey fan

    What is the grade for the Vogel and coaching staff. I would give it a D.

    • Jack Wright

      D. He’d prolly give himself an A for effort, though.

  • Derrick McKey fan

    It’s not an F because the absence of George HIll was short notice. Still, the offense remains stagnant since Game 1 and I don’t see any adjustments, drawing up plays to get easy scores. It’s somewhat embarassing when the announcers/analysts state that “….the Pacers’ best offense/scoring opportunity is a missed shot”. Nice game plan, coach.

  • Jack Wright

    David West better take over finally in Game 6. That’s all I gotta say.

    Actually it’s not. It seems like every time we’re right there on the verge of looking like a really good, really consistent, really dangerous team, we lay a turd on the court like we did last night. I don’t get it. That was disgusting to watch.

    And anyone else getting sick of Frank Vogel’s perpetual positivity? Get angry, Franky.. You’re the coach!

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