by Jared Wade 64w ago
Tags: 2013 Playoffs Game Recap Pacers/Hawks
Good: Frank Vogel getting praise for plays after timeouts A Dependable Pendergraph – Dependergraph T.Hans locked into successful Psycho-T mode Gerald Green finding the net The George’s
Bad: It’s only Atlanta
I really don’t know how you didn’t like what Pendergraph brought to the game tonight. He was great in the minutes he played providing much more than you’d expect out of a 3rd string center and more than an average backup as well. He was active on both ends of the court, knocked down a timely jumper, kept balls alive on the offensive glass, and had a nice putback. I think the dude deserves a little higher than a C+ for that type of game when he only played 15 minutes and (I felt) made easily as big of an impact as Psycho T (who you gave a B?).
Fully agree.. Wasn’t happy to see JP taking Mahinmi’s minutes at first, but he changed my mind quickly. I guess Vogel knows a thing or two about the guys he’s paid to know..
Ian has been playing like garbage as of late. Nice to see Pende getting some minutes, he’s been fantastic in the pick n roll defense that hte Pacers have been struggling with.
Agreed. Also, Tyler missing three free throws is not good at all. He has to be a +75% shooter in the playoffs, because that’s his game: get fouled, try for the and 1, and make free throws. When the second unit needs points, Tyler’s ft’s need to drop.
Hopefully Ian’s benching will bring his game up, like it has with Green’s and Pendergraph’s. Gotsta have production from the second unit bigs to win big games
Feel like jwade is trolling all the people who get bent out of shape about game grades with the pende grade…
quite possible haha
Pendergraph a C+ and Sam Young a B-? You. Have. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me!
If you didn’t like what Pendergraph brought to the game tonight then I have to assume you didn’t watch much of it.
Of course someone would not have to watch this game to know that 8 points and 7 rebounds in 15 minutes is stellar for a guy who has just earned the backup center responsibilities.
I’m hoping the comment about Pendergraph and the C+ is a joke. It is a joke right? How could you not love what he brought to the game? 8 points on 4/6 shooting, 7 boards and great hustle in only 15 minutes? I’ll take that every game from a backup big.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out. His PnR defense was great, kept them out of the paint and take the chance on jump shots.
Then I see that Sam Young B-… yeah…..
Ya know I just could not give Hibbert an A- when he cost the team points and fouls due to walking up the floor and sometimes not even bothering to walk to the other end! It became more apparent being there than watching on TV where just don’t see the times he doesn’t even try. Yes, I know he got 3 blocks and influences a lot of plays but it is really frustrating when you think how really good he could be if he had his head on straight.
Perhaps he got the A- for the monster dunk. As much as I loved it that does not counter all of the walking up and down the floor.
or the fact that he was efficient, and controled the paint, that’s why he got an A. You’re talking about like 4-5 plays. You can’t expect a 7’2″ 250 pounder to run the break every play. I want him to play 30 minutes, not try to play to Atlanta’s pace and play 25 and forcing plays.
He had a good game just not an A. As far as the 4-5 plays he didn’t bother running the floor … how many points is that? We may need those 4 or 6 points in the next playoff game. There are plenty of 7 footers that run the floor. Kevin Garnett for one and Cody Zeller for two. I’m just saying if he can find what it takes to run the floor he will help the Pacers and himself individually achieve greater results.
Cody Zeller isn’t running the floor with NBA big men yet, and he’ll have a huge adjustment period at the next level. He won’t be anywhere near great soon if ever. And I like the guy. Just being honest about my opinion.
I agree with everybody here. Your Pendy grade is just silly.
The bench easily played their best game of the season. I’ll wait until the next couple of games to say they’ve turned the corner but I honestly didn’t think they had it in them.
Not sure of the Pendergraph grade. 7 boards, 4/6 shooting, was solid in the pick n roll defense, hit a couple great jumpers, and that putback he tossed in there. Not sure if you were watching the same game. He’s been playing great as of late being the swing big. Was playing center with David West in there, West got into more foul trouble moved over to PF and played alongside Roy. You give you Pende a C+, but have the nerve to give Sam Young a B-. All I can really say is WTF. Glad you aren’t being lazy just giving everybody A’s or everybody F’s, but seriously, c’mon.
I mean, damn. I know the box score doesn’t really show the game, but when you compare the grades from Tyler, to Pende, to Young.. How are you grading. I did watch the game. Young was terrible per the norm (Why do you bother touching the ball? You try to turn it over, take terrible shots, and at times make me question who is the better dribbler, me or you), Tyler played hard but when you say “If he plays this way all playoffs, the Pacers ceiling rises” So going 2-6, and 1-4 from the FREETHROW, the ceiling rises? 6 boards is nice, but I expect him to hit his easy shots, and his freebies. 6 rebounds is nice, but when 3 of them are offensive, and 2 of those offensive are likely his own shot……
re-grade pende homie, re-grade. Makes your other grades look worthless.
JP should have a higher grade and no doubt better than Sam but tying to knock Tyler to get JP higher is comical when Tyler came in and saved the day in the first half with West on the bench with fouls.
Tyler was a +23 in the that game and was tied with Hill for second on the teams behind PG’s +24 the next best bench player was +11 and JP was just +2. West went out in a tie game and Tyler can in and played with the starters and built a 8 point lead by the time West came back in.
The missed FT were bad for Tyler but he did get to the line, And while the 2-of-6 shooting looks bad on paper but the two misses were tip shots shots the first of which he was credited for a shot because the ball hit the backboard fighting for a rebound and the ball wasn’t even near the rim the second he kept alive leading to a three pointer and none of these 3 offensive rebounds were off his own miss and he also added in a pair of assists and a steal.
He must have mixed the analysis between Pender and Hans. Simple mistake other analysis spot on.
Utterly mystified (like everyone else) by the Pendergraph comment/grade. I am mostly worried that Atlanta and Indiana are two teams that both play better at home. If the Pacers have any kind of letdown they could EASILY drop game 3.
Go Pacers!!! and don’t get hurt anymore!
I’m just glad we found a team who we have a better bench over.
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