Post-Game Grades: Pacers Get Blown Out by the Knicks


One step forward. Four steps back. For the first time this season, while beating the Mavericks on Friday night, this year’s Pacers — by their own admission — looked like the team we were so impressed with last season for the first time. This afternoon, while losing by double digits to the Knicks, they looked like last year’s Purdue Boilermakers.

It’s tough to even analyze a game like this. The Pacers shot 26.3% and turned the ball over 10 times in the first half while scoring an embarrassing 30 points. Sure, New York couldn’t point any points on the board either after a noon-tipoff, but nobody is going to be giving out any gold stars for defense when the outcome is this ugly. They trailed by 11 at the break.

The shooting did improve after the half, as Indiana knocked down a 10 of its 14 shots (71.4%) in the third quarter. But any measure, that is great accuracy. The key number there is not the percentage; it’s the 14. They only got up that number of looks because they spend so much of their time bumbling away points in other ways, coughing up the rock 7 times and missing 4 of their 6 free-throw attempts. Add in the defensive rebounding breakdown — the Knicks got 7 offensive boards on their 15 missed FGs in the third — and New York, which shot just 40.0% in the quarter, was still able to extend their lead. That tends to happen no matter how badly you shoot when you put 25 shots compared to just 14 for Indiana.

The fourth quarter was meaningless as the Knicks thwarted every attempt the Pacers made to get back in the game. Carmelo Anthony was particularly relentless, refusing to stop attacking the paint even as he struggled to score there. Compared to Indiana, which was more than happy to keep missing shots all game long from the mid-range, the difference in mentality was glaring.

There isn’t anything really to say about a performance like this. The Pacers barely showed up and stunk up an arena that was once became must-see television every time they played there. Right now, there is no kind way to put it. This team just sucks.

Here is how each guy played individually tonight. Agree? Disagree? Express your thoughts below in the comments or yell at me (@8pts9secs) or Tim (@TimDonahue8p9s) on Twitter.

David West - 34 MIN | 6-10 FG | 7 REB | 3 AST | 14 PTS

Shot 6-for-8 inside 17 feet and scored 8 of the team’s 18 first-quarter points. Didn’t play badly, in short. But he also didn’t exactly put the team on his back or anything and had several defensive lapses.

Paul George - 36 MIN | 6-15 FG (4-7 3PT) | 4-4 FT | 3 AST | 20 PTS

Hit some threes and made it to the line a few times, which makes this his second (at least marginally) efficient scoring game in a season in which he now has scored 155 points on 148 shots. That 1.05 points/shot average is a mammoth drop off from the 1.25 points/shot he posted last season (798 points on 639 FGAs).

Roy Hibbert - 25 MIN | 3-10 FG | 0-0 FT | 8 REB | 6 TO | 6 PTS

If we use the average amount he will receive over the next four seasons, Roy made $176,829 for his play today. (In his defense … he did play some good defense. Still. Just look at those numbers. 7 missed shots, zero FTs, all the turnovers.)

George Hill - 33 MIN | 2-9 FG | 3 REB | 6 AST | 3 TO | 7 PTS

Gross shooting and led an offense that didn’t show up.

Lance Stephenson - 28 MIN | 2-7 FG | 3 REB | 5 AST | 3 TO | 4 PTS

Didn’t look as bad as the numbers suggest, but certainly wasn’t good.

Miles Plumlee - 4 MIN | 0-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS

Garbage time.

Tyler Hansbrough - 19 MIN | 1-2 FG | 3-4 FT | 8 REB | 5 PTS

Rebounded well, got some FTs, added energy. That’s his job.

Jeff Pendergraph - 4 MIN | 2-2 FG | 1-1 FT | 1 REB | 5 PTS

Garbage time.

Sam Young - 19 MIN | 2-2 FG | 1-4 FT | 6 REB | 6 PTS

Looked pretty OK mostly and hit a corner three. Make your free throws.

Gerald Green - 18 MIN | 2-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 5 PTS

Can’t remember a single thing he did. That’s starting to be a trend.

Ian Mahinmi - 10 MIN | 0-6 FG | 0-2 FT | 3 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS

Miss some more shots why don’t you.

Ben Hansbrough - 4 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 AST | 2 PTS

Garbage time.

D.J. Augustin - 6 MIN | 1-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 AST | 2 PTS

Bad decisions, didn’t score, didn’t affect the game in any positive ways I noticed.

Tags: Game Recap

  • Jack Wright

    yuck. absolute yuck. what happened to our up-and-coming indiana pacers..

  • http://www.facebook.com/joebetzii Joe Betz

    The Pacers have officially taken on the name Brick City. George should not receive an above average grade for this game–he gave up at least two offensive boards to Melo that come to my mind during points in the game the Pacers needed stops–in fact, every chance they had to get in the game they gave up offensive boards.

  • NLP

    I understand that Hansbrough is white but is he transparent? Dude was wide open under the rim by a mile and no pass, posted up Kidd no pass, posted up Novak no pass. He had two shots and one wasn’t even a real shot as he tipped a rebound off the top of the glass and got credited with one but did get an extra rebound out of it and the other was a dunk off whatever Mahinmi tried to do out there on offense.

    Speaking of Mahinm, he makes Tyler look like John Stockton out there! The dude will not pass no matter what if given the ball with any kind of space, he may be the biggest black hole in the league. For him to dish it off it off tons need to go right. I can’t even see how he got 25 assists in 160 games.

    There is no scenario where I can find Ian and DJ going 1st and 2nd in bench FGa a good idea, I do like Green getting his shots lowered but he can shot more than 2 times, I can live with Sam shooting some if he takes good looks and always believe Tyler should get more touches since he draws foul, even put a star Melo on the bench with 2 quick fouls in the 3rd.

    We got away from what we did in the Dallas game, our Starters only shot 7 FT today after 23 vs Dallas.

    Roy sucked bad again but eventually he’s going to get it ironed out and Lance was bad today but I expected it heading back to NYC as a starter, he tried to do way too much early but should learn from it. But much like I preached all last year our starting 5 is legit when whole so out real hopes are going to fall on the bench and finding set roles for guys.

    • Jack Wright

      ^Exactly. Everything that was said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/varu.chand Varu Chand

    this team is really hurting at the 5 spot.Maybe we should go small and play uptempo-West and Tyler to start and bench that clown Hibbert

    • Realist

      I mentioned that the other day. I reckon it’s worth a shot, but Vogel will never do it. He’s a confidence guy, and Hibbert probably couldn’t hack it.

    • lil-bang

      uptempo would only make this team lose by 35 against a team like the knicks, but maybe the Pacers would score in the 90′s, the defense is the only thing keeping the Pacers from being 0-10.

      Also it’s not like Hibbert is the only starter struggling, pretty much the whole team is. (All the starters are shooting career lows in percentage) Hibbert just hasn’t shown the streaky-ness of Hill, West, and George. Hibbert his one shot, misses 6…West makes 4 in a row, then misses the next 10, same for Hill, and George just misses every shot in the 4th.

      But something doesn’t get better in the next week, then Vogel needs to sit guys out a rotation or 2 to make them starting feeling individual responsibility.
      I think every pacer fan’s worst nightmare happened…starter gets hurt earlier and the 2 guys who signed huge contracts and are starting slow. Perfect formula for everyone to start asking for changes or say I told you so on those contracts.

  • Rex

    Pacers need to come out and not only beat the Wizards and Hornets but beat both teams by double-digits.

  • Rex

    We are the 28th worst offense in the league(was really shocked when I saw we weren’t the worse…but somehow Philly and Washington have a worse offense). We also are the worst passing team averaging an amazing 17 assists per game.
    But on the bright side we have the best defense in the NBA and 2nd best rebounding team in the NBA! So if we can get our offense in order we can be really good.

  • lil-bang

    It is very surprising to me that the score of this game was not worse. It was still a blowout but the Knicks didn’t even get in the 90′s. Out rebounded(lets hope this is the only time), horrible shooting percentage(again), and too many turnovers(again). So the defense of this team should get a little credit. This is a hot knicks team, didn’t expect to see a win but expected better effort. The Pacers can beat this team later in the season once all the lineup and system gets ironed, but not right now.

    It’s going to take time for this team to gel, with Danny out it only complicated it more for Frank Vogel.This year will really show how good of a coach he is. Not expecting him to be at Thibedou’s level yet and make this team win the division without it’s captain and leading scorer, but atleast be a respectable gritty team. Which they are not right now.

    GO PACERS!!!

  • dwaink

    they looked beat when they walked out on the court, and at the half and the third…they have to stop useing the word “swagger” cause they have none. i actually think Green is showing some signs of figureing this crap out, now if he would just hit his shots when they come to them…and figure out where the heck his man is….u just get the feeling that with a little shuffle somewhere by the coaching staff, suddenly all the pieces wil fall into place and they will be a team to be reckoned with again…can’t come soon enough and until then we better start seeing some gumption from our PACERS!!! i also get the feeling that David and Roy are hurting somehow, and we just aren’t getting the info…David’s jumping has gone off and Roy is struggling to walk, much less run or do any kind of footwork.