Announcement LIVE NOW: FanSided's Game of Thrones recap show. ×

Detroit, Indiana, Fans, Apathy and an Odd Future

Recently, I entered the House the Bad Boys Built and Ron Artest nearly tore down: the Palace of Auburn Hills. Expecting to perhaps be threatened or harassed for my preferred outcome of Saturday’s Pacers/Pistons game in Motown, I was instead disturbed for entirely different reasons.

It wasn’t the fact that I was in Detroit during Spring Break, the free throw shooting of my favored team or even the final result that upset me. The problem was the atmosphere of the game.

In a city far removed from its team’s latest championship, the Detroit crowd was lively and responsive. The Pistons played a good game — certainly helped by their opponent’s 7-of-19 performance from the free throw line — and the crowd fed them energy.

Why does it matter that Detroit had a good crowd on a Saturday night home game in March? Great question. I’m glad that you asked.

The real problem is that it was a more energetic game than any of the dozen that I have been to in Indianapolis all year. This came in the building of a team that is effectively out of the playoff race and has very few, if any, long term answers.

As the regular season draws to a close, and the postseason vaguely threatens to disappear entirely, it is not unreasonable to take a quick glance to the Pacers’ future.

Mike Dunleavy ($10.5 million), T.J. Ford ($8.5 million) and Jamaal Tinsley ($5.5 million) all have contributed about equal amounts since the switch to Frank Vogel, and all will be off the Pacers’ cap next year. This gives the team a considerable amount of wiggle room to sign new free agents to complement the assumed existing core of Darren Collison, Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough and Paul George.

In a rapidly changing NBA, the question becomes: what will bring the players to Indiana?

We’ve seen from the recent migrations of LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Carmelo Anthony that money isn’t enough in every circumstance. Oftentimes it comes down to the existing players on the roster (also known as the “Miami Cheat” or “LeBron White Flag”) or location (also known as “Carmelo Takes Denver Hostage”). Unfortunately, the Pacers really don’t have either advantage on their side.

Don’t get me wrong: I’ve lived in Indiana my entire life, and with the exception of a few months-long excursions to perfect my Spanish, I don’t expect to leave anytime soon. But I’m not an NBA free agent, the majority of whom aren’t from the Midwest.

So if money isn’t enough to bring a big-time free agent to Indianapolis, what’s getting him here?

See, the problem in Indiana may be the weather: the cold-weather tendencies of the winter and the fair-weather tendencies of the fans. The Colts even had some trouble selling out this year’s home playoff game initially, and the Pacers can’t get a full house without help from either LeBron or fans from Chicago.

If I’m an NBA player, I’ve noticed this in my past trips to Indiana over the years. I’m not entirely sure that I want to spend the next three to five years of my career playing in front of a Conseco Fieldhouse half-full of lethargic supporters. I don’t know what the small market of Indianapolis, a city where the bars close at 2:00 and the winter lasts a full three months, has to offer me other than a paycheck. I’m going to think twice about playing almost 50 games a year over six months in an arena in the self-proclaimed capital of basketball where the fans can’t match the energy level of a destitute team in a city that just set a national record for population decrease.

If you’re reading this thinking that sounds ridiculously immature and shortsighted, you may not completely understand the mind of a millionaire athletic phenomenon in his 20s.

On November 19, 2004, Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson ran into the stands at the Palace of Auburn Hills; the Pacers have never been relevant since. As I sat less than a hundred feet from that very spot six years and change later listening to an invigorated Detroit crowd celebrate a fundamentally meaningless victory, I worried about how my team could ever return to what it once was if the fans just don’t really care.

Topics: Detroit Pistons, Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson

Want more from 8 Points, 9 Seconds?  
Subscribe to FanSided Daily for your morning fix. Enter your email and stay in the know.
  • http://karicpro.weebly.com Semir

    Agree 100000% with this. The only way players will come and play for the PACERS is if they’re drafted by us or this year we somehow upset someone in the playoffs. But as a true Pacers fan, i don’t see us signing a BIG Superstar unless we start winning some games.

  • Pingback: Demoted from ESPN, Pistons and Pacers will have their resiliency tested on FSD+ « PistonPowered

  • Otis

    I too have lived in Indiana my whole life,and I agree 100%. For the reasons you stated,the fairweather fan base, the lack of STAR recruiting by the Colts or the Pacers, has completely turned me against those two sports teams,its mostly the fan base they really dont support their teams when they go through rough patches of playing. Pure bandwagon jumpers.

  • Ryan Gallagher

    I have been to three home games this year: a loss to the Ming-less Rockets early in the year and two separate thwompings of the Raptors and the Wizards (who had beaten the Pacers at homes two days earlier) respectively. Now, I haven’t been to three games in the last five years but I was lucky enough to be at dozens of great games in the 90′s including game 3 of 1994 Easter Conference Finals where the Pacers held Ewing to his career low one-point game. That was when there wasn’t an empty seat in the Arena. Even though I don’t see Josh McRoberts, or even Brandon Rush scoring 8 points in 9 seconds it would be nice to see more people in the seats. Tickets are really reasonable and the games are a blast! They’d be much better if there were more than 3,000 people there. So, come on people!! Go to a game next year or we may find ourselves in Seattle’s position– losing their franchise to a place like Oklahoma City, which has to remind people they are a city by putting it in their name… which is nothing like polis.

  • Ian2

    Admittedly it’s been 15 yrears since I lived in Indy but the bars used to be open till 3 did something change?

    And FYI, other than Vegas, NYC and Miami they close at 2 in the rest of the country!

  • TooHot4TV!!!

    The bars are open til 3 Ian, I don’t know what this guy is talking about. Many stay open later but they have to stop serving at 3. Maybe he should try going to a bar before he writes about them. I also don’t like him putting Dunleavy in the same sentence as Ford and Tinsley. Last time I checked Dunleavy wasn’t in exile and is going to be a big part of our playoff push. This whole article really is dumb. Indiana isn’t unique in it’s attendance problems. There is a reason why the fans left and the answer to getting them back is pretty simple. I may not understand the psyche of a millionaire athlete, but this article is short sided, immature, dumb, poorly researched, horribly written, feel free to add any adjective you want that get’s the point across that reading this article was a complete waste of my time. Money will get players here. No, a dollar in Indy doesn’t get the same value as a dollar in New York, but if you pay them, they will come. The Pacers won’t land a LeBron, but they won’t target one either. The answer to attendance is also simple, give the fans a winning product and they will show up.

  • Aaron

    I don’t know, I remember watching the first Pacer game in Detroit on television, and the seats were EMPTY. Emptier than anything I’ve seen at Conseco. Maybe all the lively Pistons fans sit in the upper levels? Normally I’d say that I trust more in the judgement of someone who’s actually been to games in both arenas, but this author equated Dunleavy’s contribution to the Pacers with that of Tinsley’s, so I have to wonder about his credibility.

  • Pingback: Game 75 Preview: Bucks at Pacers |