Post-Game Grades: Pacers Get Blown Out by Miami to End Their Season

The Good: Nope.

The Bad: Everything that has happened since the All-Star break, really, but more specifically this game.

MVP: LeBron James. The best there is, maybe ever.

LVP: Paul George. Didn’t make a shot in the first half as he watched his team’s season sink like the Titanic.

X-Factor: Lance Stephenson. He was quirky, he was odd, he was good, he may have punched Norris Cole in the face.


Indiana Pacers 92 Final
Recap | Box Score
117 Miami Heat
David West, PF 34 MIN | 8-11 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 16 PTS | -25

Good job. One of two starters that showed up.

Paul George, SF 41 MIN | 8-18 FG | 8-10 FT | 8 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 29 PTS | -28


Roy Hibbert, C 32 MIN | 1-3 FG | 6-6 FT | 4 REB | 3 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 8 PTS | -22


George Hill, PG 36 MIN | 4-11 FG | 1-3 FT | 6 REB | 3 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 9 PTS | -28

Not good.

Lance Stephenson, SG 36 MIN | 4-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 11 PTS | -21

Played well in the first half, antics aside.

Tags: Indiana Pacers

  • Syreeta McNeal

    I am glad this came to an end. But, something needs to be said about all the talking that was done after the success of last year. Led by Vogel (who should be FIRED, PERIOD), he was more Stan Van Gundy like in talk and approach than in improving his coaching and relatability to the players to have them give their best all the time. Vogel was more worried about fame (e.g. being in Dove commercials, sitting with the Pacer 5 group with ESPN and the Stephen A. Smith interview early in the season), than coaching. Brian Shaw at least had an offense (triangle where West/Hibbert got touches in the post and players moved). After Shaw left, Vogel had to show he could coach during adversity and it did not work. He got exposed as a weaker version of Mike Brown who needs great players to make him look good. When your leader is more worried about fame, then trust me it will cause issues. Another thing he did which baffled me was Vogel did not put Lance Stephenson on the all star roster. Dumb move. He helped you have the best record and you are his coach and you did not even want to celebrate him. The rift with the team started their. Paul George was more worried about being a “gigolo” than being a great basketball player. With paternity suits and rumors of him having relations with Hibbert’s girlfriend/wife, Paul George showed he was immature. George Hill is a backup point guard (or 3rd stringer). He has not improved one bit in terms of office and when he is shaky in confidence, then it reflects on the whole team. Hibbert’s issues are mental due to having one of his teammates (either George or Hill) have relations with his wife/fiance/girlfriend. Remember when Lebron James had trouble playing after Delonte West was messing with his mother. It is hard for any man to focus to the point of playing for a championship. Bird needs to clean house and fire Vogel so he can be a broadcaster like Stan Van Gundy in my opinion. George Hill needs to be shipped out to anybody who wants him (D-League, etc…). Personally, Mark Jackson is not a bad fit. He knows how to coach and players respect him and will not do this foolishness due to fame and fortune. Also, Mark Jackson knows how to run offensive sets.

    • disqus_atlq8Zmtsd

      I disagree with you on Vogel. I think he is AT WORST a top 10 coach in the NBA. Also, I believe that coaches aren’t allowed to vote for their own players. Certainly he couldn’t unilaterally appoint Lance to the all star team.

      And the main reason Golden State fans were disenchanted with Jackson is that their offensive system was nonexistent. Just a series of isolations or simple pick and rolls…. and Golden State had more offensive talent than Indiana could dream of. If you want the offense to evolve into a decent system, I dont think Jackson is the way to go.

      • Detroit Redd

        Top ten only in Record

        • disqus_atlq8Zmtsd

          I put him behind Pop, Spo, SVG, Doc, Carisle, and maybe Thibs among active coaches. Certainly I put him ahead of Jackson.

          • 15points126seconds

            I would agree, although SVG has been out of the league for a few years. Need to see what he can do with this Detroit team first.

        • 15points126seconds

          name 10 better?

      • Special K

        Vogel clearly doesn’t have control of this team. If he’s a top 10 coach in the league, then a top 10 coach with top 5 talent isn’t enough to win. Whitlock stated it best in an article on ESPN – the players will love him because he’s all positive and doesn’t hold them accountable. A championship team needs leadership – not babysitting – from its head coach. If Vogel is back next year, it won’t matter what the roster looks like, the Pacers will come back in the same form – a team that falls short in big moment and doesn’t accomplish anything more than they have in the past.

        • 15points126seconds

          everything Whitlock writes is intentionally inflammatory and pointless. Guy’s a complete joke, basically the journalist version of Skip bayless and Stephen A Smith

          • Special K

            Doesn’t mean he’s not right in this context. I don’t think claiming that Vogel might not be tough enough on his players is inflammatory. I disdain Bayless and SAS as much as the next guy, and Whitlock can be a troll, but that doesn’t mean that you should discount any of them when they might have a legit point.

          • 15points126seconds

            Ok, so the point specific that guys will love a positive coach who supports them publicly unconditionally is valid. Whether that’s a bad thing, hard to say. Lack of maturity from our guys doesn’t fall on the coach. Regardless, top 5 talent came in 4th place this year seems pretty reasonable to me. Fact is we have one all-star talent on our team and two borderline-all stars. If we lose next year, it could just be as simple as the heat have 3 all stars (and future hall of famers) plus a hall of famer on their bench.

    • 15points126seconds

      wow I couldn’t disagree with you more. Your every opinion is completely ignorant at best and utterly wrong at worst, to the extent that I think you came on this site just to troll Pacers fans who actually care about this team and don’t jump on the popular shit-on-the-pacers they-should-blow-it-up stories going around sports media.
      You are like those retarded fans who love Lebron when he’s the best player in the world, then criticize him for passing it to Bosh in Game 5 for being scared of the moment, love him for dominating game 6 and then question his manhood for not playing through cramps in Game 1. Gtfo

    • 15points126seconds

      I don’t know why i even bother, but I’ll briefly run through some of the many reasons why you’re wrong about vogel
      1- SVG is considered by almost everyone, a Great Coach. Dwight ran him out of town, but to compare Vogel to him is a compliment. GSW chased him AFTER firing Jackson. And JVG is the national ESPN broadcaster, not SVG.
      2- Why FIRED, PERIOD? How many coaches can you think of who turned his team around as much as he did from when he took over? He’s largely responsible for their development and cohesion and building what was a historic defense int he first half of the season. To blame him for the off court troubles that plagued the team is short-sighted and misguided, that’s on the players (Baby drama, cat fishing, selfish dudes, lance’s comments in the ECF). His players respect him and they cohesion/defense we showed in the first half prove he’s had the support of the locker room throughout everything. To a man they defended him when rumors came out.
      3- Who’s out there thats demonstrably better?? Mark Jackson had steph curry on his team and ran a below average, pedestrian offense, with more inefficient isolations than any other team in the league! Endorsements are part of the life of every NBA official. I for one am glad Frank wasn’t exorted by a stripper mid season like MJ.
      4- I regret reading your garbage because you say things like Vogel should have put lance on the all star would have taken you literally 3 seconds of goggling to find out coaches cannot vote for their own player.

      please, just stfu and if you need to express your dumb, uneducated opinions go to twitter or

  • disqus_atlq8Zmtsd

    The Pacers are still better than they showed tonight. The Heat… they just played their A+ game from top to bottom.

    Not much you can do there. I wonder if the Pacers make wholesale changes or just find an offensive minded bench wizard to supplement Vogel.

    • Brandon Burton

      I hope they find a good offensive assistant for Vogel, with his brilliant defensive strategies combined with someone who (no offense to Vogel, who is essentially Thibodeaux 2.0) actually knows how to develop and install an offense; the Pacers could be better than ever.

      • disqus_atlq8Zmtsd

        Who knows? Maybe someone from Spoelstra’s staff would be looking for a promotion to associate head coach. You can’t deny the Heat have solid principles, and George is capable of doing a lot of what LeBron does at least in theory.

        Obviously not a copy and paste job, but most of the continuity principles transcend personnel.

      • 15points126seconds

        This. This is key. Vogel is a good coach, but he needs someone to act as the defacto “offensive coordinator” for the team. I hoped that would have been nate mcmillan, but evidently not the case.

    • Special K

      There are going to *have* to be some serious changes. The Pacers showed that they’re still not in the Heat’s league. Even if Stephenson comes back, they’re still not good enough to get past the Heat next year.

      • disqus_atlq8Zmtsd

        Well, the idea would be that you can improve the team without changing the players by improving the system. Defense obviously isn’t the problem here, although Miami did shred them.

        • Special K

          Defense overall obviously isn’t a problem, but if the Pacers can’t defend Miami in a seven game series, all the rest doesn’t matter. And they didn’t in this series. Miami will continue to shred them, because of Vogel’s complete inability to adjust to Miami’s tactics. The Pacers are content to try to do the same thing over and over and hope luck breaks their way one day. It won’t, because championship teams make their own luck, and over seven games, you’re not going to get enough luck to take the series. This team will always fall short as long as Vogel is in charge.

  • Jack Wright

    Fire Vogel. Keep Lance. Trade Hill. Then hire a GOOD coach. Maybe Mark Jackson, but I’m not sure. My mind goes quicker to Fred Hoiberg for some reason. But damn you can’t keep Vogel.

    • 15points126seconds

      Vogel has accomplished too much in 3 years for us to fire him after one bad series, especially coming against the player that has won, what 11 of his last 12 playoff series? 26 other teams would gladly change positions with the pacers right now.
      I’m not convinced that vogel is the right man for the job, but I’m ok with bringing him back for one more season and seeing if he can improve the offense.