Wade to Granger: "Are You out Here to Play Basketball or Are You Out Here to Be a Tough Guy?"

Danny Granger has picked up technical fouls in the past three games for getting in the faces of, in chronological order, LeBron, LeBron and Dwyane Wade over the following three games. The following quotes on the subject, reported by ESPN Heat beat writer Brian Windhorst, are presented without further comment.

“Whatever he’s trying, it is not working,” James said Tuesday before Game 5. “He’s said he’s not scared of LeBron, I want to let (James) know. I guess he’s doing it for his own psyche. It’s stupid.”

“I’m all for standing up for your guys, but certain things you just can’t keep doing,” Wade said. “My message to Granger was that you just can’t keep running up into people’s faces for altercations. We’re not fighting on this basketball court, so let’s not act like we’re going to fight. We can be physical and do all that, but certain things got to stop. Are you out here to play basketball or are you out here to be a tough guy?”

“Nobody is fighting on the basketball court. C’mon,” [LeBron] said. “I’m not going to fight because I mean too much to our team and I can’t afford to be suspended for a game or do something stupid to get thrown out of a playoff game.”

Game 5 is tonight at 8:00 pm EST.

UPDATE: The effervescent Tom Haberstroh, another ESPN Heat beat writer, reported the following quotes from Granger on the matter.

Granger on trash-talking: “I think there is a line and I’m tip-toeing it. That’s a product of the chip on my shoulder.”

Granger feels disrespected nationally: “3 or 4 teams that didn’t make the playoffs had more televised games than us.”

Granger on stepping to Wade after Hibbert’s foul: “Maybe it was overreaction, maybe it wasn’t. It was in the heat of the moment.”

Let’s hope the pun in the last comment was unintentional. For comedy’s sake.

  • http://www.baldfreaks.com LeBron James

    darrrrrr me no like Danny Granger.
    derrrr he be a tough guy but he scare of LeBron!!!
    darrrrrrrrrrr me say he a stupid!

  • Conor

    Every time Granger has gotten into the face of Lebron and/or Wade, it was because of one of them overreacting to a play. Scenario 1: Lebron gets layup blocked by Granger so out of frustration on the next play, tries to flop for a foul call and throws his elbows around toward Granger. Scenario 2: Granger prevents a fast break dunk, and Lebron throws up an elbow that could have hit Granger if he was near it. Scenario 3: Wade, still frustrated by his poor play, throws his arms about after Hibbert fouls him which was unneccesary. Granger is not getting into people’s faces for no reason; he is just letting them know that the Pacers won’t get pushed around by the Heat. I love Granger’s attitude to not back down, and it reminds me of the physical play of the NBA years ago. Heat players and fans don’t like to see their glamorous superstars get pushed around so they are getting frustrated. Keep up the feisty-ness Granger!!!

  • thejoshbaker

    Basically, LeBron and Wade want to be able to cheap shot people without anyone getting in their face.

    This complaint is bogus and the fact national guys are now calling Granger out is ridiculous.

  • Eric

    Totally agree with the points above, the Wade play frustrated me because he actually got the call, and then was still complaining (if I remember correctly). I just hate that Granger’s getting technicals, at this stage we don’t need to give away points.

  • Styles Baker

    Don’t forget Wade’s cheap shot on Collison…

  • NoLookPass

    Danny is a wanna be tough guy in this league and is trending towards a laughing stock. He’s been out to be the bad guy for a while now so this just isn’t a Heat issue. I don’t know if he doing it to get himself noticed or the team but if things to pop off and it goes down I can’t see Danny getting mixed up in the fight at all. He’s just a hype man.

  • Dan

    Granger is doing what a captain should do. He’s sticking up for himself and his teammates showing that the Pacers won’t be pushed around by the heat and that the heat won’t get away with taking cheapshots (Bron Brons 2 elbows, Wade decking Collison, Wade flailing his arms after Hibberts foul). How bout this, Pacers fans to Wade, are you going to play basketball or just complain to the refs after they don’t call a foul when you flop?

  • poot

    Sounds like Danny is getting into their heads a little.

    I’ve seen players like him in person who get in your face about every little thing. If you aren’t actually bothered your reaction is “He can do whatever he wants, I’m happy to pad our score with technical free throws”
    Seems from the vehement reactions of LeBron/Wade that not only are they still thinking about Danny before the reporters brought it up, but that they have some internal aggressive they need to release from the situation. In game 4 they did it by playing like superstars, yet he still lingers as a sore subject for them. I am interested to see how they respond tonight. I have money on Danny getting in someone’s face again tonight and a Heat player overreacting to it. Keep it up DG!!

  • JB

    I hope Granger keeps up the tough guy act. Those techs are the easiest points the Heat are going to see all series long.

  • NoLookPass

    If Danny got in Wade and James head last game he needs to get the hell out of it because they hit us with 70 points last game with their combined second half line being 43-19-9 while out team line in the second half was just 39-18-9.

    If they walk to sleep walk this series let them, no need to rile up elite players that live for these type of challenges. Danny should use some of his new found hardness and keep James off the glass or at least get him under 12 a game!

    We need to stop being fake tough and get real tough and attack them for a while and expose their lack of depth, and get our guys to the line 30 times rather than talking and taking jumpers. Lets see West, Roy, PG, Tyler and Danny take it into the paint more and play our brand of smashmouth basketball that we’ve gotten away from.

  • poot

    NLP, well shit yeah man, we need to post up West/Hibbert much much more often, but Miami is doing a good job of making it tough. it is surprising we are not more imposing down low, but I guess we have to be realistic that Hibs is still a work in progress and DWest may be running a little low in the tank (that stretch from mid-April to about Game 2 was amazing, but clearly its starting to wear on him)

    i think he got in their heads. yeah they put up 70. and yet they still didnt shut him up. he still will stand up for his team. so now what? are they going to put up 90? 100? 200? will that stop Danny? personally i’d rather have a tough opponent playing with less than 100% of his head in the game, especially ones prone to mental errors…

  • Jacob

    I’m sorry, but Granger’s antics have been borderline stupid. Especially considering he really hasn’t backed them up. Also, Wade went off after that altercation Sunday. Way to go Granger.

    Bottom line: the Pacers can do so much better without overrated players like Granger as their captain.

  • Joe

    I got a response from the NBA after I emailed them about Wade not gettign a suspension or fine after his flagrant on Collison:

    “Dear Joe:

    Thank you for contacting the National Basketball Association with your concerns regarding Dwyane Wade’s Flagrant Foul One against Darren Collison during the fourth quarter of the May 15 playoff game between the Miami Heat and Indiana Pacers.

    The NBA reviews all flagrant fouls to consider whether the foul should be upgraded or downgraded, whether to assess a fine and, in some cases, whether to impose a suspension. After careful consideration and close review of the play, the league determined that Dwyane’s foul was correctly called a Flagrant Foul One.

    Thank you for your feedback and your support of the NBA.


    NBA Fan Relations”

    I mentioned Smith’s foul on Griffin, and they said nothing about it.

  • little B

    One week of Pacer Games being on the national spotlight: At first I was excited about it. Now it’s just dumb because stupid story after stupid story comes out to get fans (not the players really) all hoorahed up.
    If someone almost hit me in the face twice with an elbow I would probably get in their face. Actually I would. But with the ones Lebron threw I would have actually laughed if I was Danny. Lebron simulated and elbow throw on each one to show to Danny what he could have done if he wanted to. Who is really acting like the “tough” guys? Lebrons fake elbows and Wade’s cheap shot just make them look like a bunch of nancys. The article by the Heat lover doesn’t say anything about why Danny was pissed. The question is, is that what he really saw happen or is he just trying to paint a good picture of James and Wade and a bad picture of Danny? Who knows, who cares. Whoever wins this series will get the last laugh, that being said GO PACERS!!!

  • PG

    Joe, I got the exact same email from the NBA when I emailed about Wade’s flagrant foul. I also brought up the Smith-Griffin play and they didn’t respond to that either. Nice to know those form letters are helping the NBA keep in touch with its fans.

  • poot

    little B

    well said.
    One reason i love sports is how they help me escape reality, and i imagine this perfect world of the highest level of athletic competition, unsullied by the greed and corruption of reality.

    It is difficult in this series for reasons including the one you mention. the one-sided officiating, the way the media spins (Lebron/Wade portrayed as “basketball legends allowing the street thug Pacers the honor of playing on the same court as them and putting up with their bush league antics,”) the propaganda delivered down to us from Stern via ESPN, the repeated en masse by the sheep of the world, the people who need something to talk about around the water cooler but don’t follow sports, so they click ESPN.com and repeat whatever they read verbatim.

    its sad, because I keep imagining this as a david vs goliath, good vs evil type series.
    in reality, its just act II of a play orchestrated from the puppet master Stern. “Bosh goes down and Indy looks tough, can the Heat lose? come on guys really, we’re making it look like the heat could lose right?”

  • dwain

    @poot can and will lose :) GO PACERS!!!

  • Bat

    @poot You’re right.

  • bugoi

    This guy is upset that they are not getting the TV exposure that he craves, hey, no one wants to watch you! Your miserable fanbase are not even interested until this little run that you are having right now.

  • Havoc

    You’re wrong if you think they are thinking about DG and he’s in their head. A question was asked by a member of the esteemed media and they answered it. Plus if you feel, its really being a factor then i guess 70pts and 27 rebounds is a great response. Eventually, DG could be the one to feel Stern’s wrath if he continues this way cos heat players always walk away when he starts up. Its obvious from their response as well that they know he’s just trying to get someone thrown out just to make things that much easier. I have no dog in this race, just want to see basketball… knock it off with all the extra curricular activity.

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  • Realist

    Stern won’t do anything to Granger while Wade’s shoulder on Collison goes unpunished and quietly swept under the rug.

    And who’s to say it’s not working. All that matters is: 2-2, which is better than most people thought we’d be at after 4. I’m not too fussed either way about Granger standing up to them like he has, but I understand. Do whatcha gotta do, Danny.


  • poot

    ok… the reaction was 70 pts 27 reb after the THIRD time. how did they react the first two times? from what i recall they lost those games.

  • Havoc

    You conveniently avoided the fact that they had to adjust in one game to bosh’s absence and in another game, to wade’s need not responding after being drained. Why am I even defending the heat and responding to you. I don’t care either way who wins, just want to see good basketball with the better team taking the series. All the best to your pacers. #jinx

  • Havoc

    **wade’s knee not responding

  • Logical Person

    You are an idiot. Not quite sure what your IQ is but I’m guessing low… LeBron and Wade torched us again and where is granger? Hurt! He is worthless and you are too. Enjoy your miserable life being you. That must suck!

  • Joshua

    Granger is acting like a tough guy because he has a chip on his shoulder for not being on national tv. So he’s locking in on the opposing team. as if the opposing team has any say on tv airings. smh..

    if he did the confrontation act one time, we could say, yeah he’s standing up! but then it happens, again and again and that’s all he do! stand up! not even a shove which would get the same penalty, a technical foul! might as well abandon the act…